On 10 Jan 2014, at 10:52, Alberto G. Corona wrote:

2014/1/10, Alberto G. Corona <agocor...@gmail.com>:
2014/1/10, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be>:

On 09 Jan 2014, at 23:00, Stephen Paul King wrote:

Dear LizR,

 That is the key question that remains, IMHO, unanswered.

It is answered, completely.


Stephen, LizR

From what I can understand, once cleared from
arithmetic-logic-metaphysic misticism,  the determination of the laws
from infinite "competitive" computations follow Solomonoff's theorem
of inductive inference.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomonoff 's_theory_of_inductive_inference

Or it should. But the problem is that Bruno did not gives a weight for
each computation in order to stablish the outcome of what the pencil
does in the air. Neither the algorithmic complexity of each
computation (Solomonoff) nor any other. Therefore, it is  a complete
chaos cut by some magic 1p collapse of computations, following QM
fashion. And there is where the aritmetic-logic-metaphysic mysticism
does his job.


... Job that I do not know how it is possible if a computation that
does everithing OK until it convert the pencil in a fat female soprano
(with big algorithmic complexity) is equally compatible with all my 1p
observations until that moment,  is equally probable than the
computation with much less algorithmic complexity that does its job
right and moves the pencil gracefully without emitting molesting
noises.

So anything goes

Yes, that is the white rabbit problem. Most of my earlier posts on this list has consisted in explaining why algorithmic complexity cannot work. It surely plays some role, but we have to extract it from the redundancy, no imposed it, as this would mock the consciousness invariance, and the FPI invariance which follows from comp. Of course, if you think you can eliminate the white rabbit with only algorithmic complexity, please do, but you will have to explain why the 'non algorithmically simple programs' do no more interfere with the FPI global indeterminacy, and by the delay invariance for the 1p experiences, that does not seem obvious at all.
You do seem close to grasp the problem.

Bruno




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