On 14 Jan 2014, at 18:48, Edgar L. Owen wrote:

Liz,

Correct. Most reality math is likely fairly simple and fairly limited. That's why Bruno's 'comp' that assumes all math exists out there somewhere is so extraordinarily wrong and excessive and non- parsimonious.

I will stop comment, if you repeat false allegation already corrected in previous posts. I do not assume all math exists out there. Only arithmetic. "all math" is an expression having no precise meaning. It means nothing, actually.

Now, if you believe that "29 is prime" does depend on you, show me the functional relation between "29 is prime" and "you", with "you" defined without using the notion of numbers.

Bruno




As for the grid cells on the GR rubber sheet model just imagine a mass-energy content in one cell dilating it. That automatically produces a curvature in the rubber sheet around that mass-energy consistent with the effects of space curvature in GR.

Edgar



On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 12:52:24 AM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
On 14 January 2014 16:49, Edgar L. Owen <edga...@att.net> wrote:
Liz,

Sure, the particle property conservation laws that conserve the amounts of particle properties in elementary particle interactions, and the laws that govern the binding of elementary particles in matter. These are the fundamental computations that determine most of the structure of the universe....

OK, but I would imagine most conservations laws don't require much computation - aren't they more akin to storing (i.e. conserving) data?

How and where is the code stored? There is no 'where' in a non- dimensional computational space. How it is stored I intimated in an earlier response of an hour or so ago. It's stored as combinations of code and data in the actual process of evolving computationally.

I don't understand what you mean by the code and data are stored "in the process of evolving computationally"

How do the computations decide what data they will interact with? The computations include the data they compute in one information structure as explained above.

Where does that data come from? Is there any interaction between adjacent computations? (Are there such things as adjacent computations? If there isn't, how does locality emerge?)

What grid cells? Aren't you familiar with the standard rubber sheet model of GR? The rubber sheet has grid cells drawn on it.

The grid cells drawn in embedding diagrams are there to show the metrical properties of space-time, while the computations you're talking about are, I believe, what generates space-time. I don't (as yet) see an obvious connection between the two.


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