On 16 January 2014 21:34, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
>
> On 15 Jan 2014, at 20:40, meekerdb wrote:
>
> On 1/15/2014 12:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
> And the answer is "yes, he would know that, but not immediately".
>
> So it would not change the indeterminacy, as he will not immediately see
> that he is in a simulation, but, unless you intervene repeatedly on the
> simulation, or unless you manipulate directly his mind, he can see that he
> is in a simulation by comparing the comp physics ("in his head") and the
> physics in the simulation.
> The simulation is locally finite, and the comp-physics is necessarily
> infinite (it emerges from the 1p indeterminacy on the whole UD*), so, soon
> or later, he will bet that he is in a simulation (or that comp is wrong).
>
>
>
> But if it is sufficiently large he won't find it is finite.
>
>
> Hmm... OK. But he will soon or later. We are talking "in principle",
> assuming the emulated person has all the time ...
>
> Ah, yes, I thought that must be what you meant. Had we but world enough
and time, this coyness, lady were no crime.
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