Dear Bruno,
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > > On 18 Jan 2014, at 22:52, Stephen Paul King wrote: > > I will write it again. Block Universes are an incoherent idea. It only > seems to work because we imagine tem as existing out there and subject to > our inspection from the outside. As if we are God or something... This very > idea is the problem, there is no God's eye view that can map faithfully to > any 1p view we might have. > > > In which theory? > It is an assumption that is smuggled into science and math. An unjustified extension of the 1p to cover all of the universe. Laplace's Demon is a good example of this. > > You are just communicating a personal conviction or feeling. > Sure, but I think you can see for yourself what its error is. It is most difficult to question assumptions that we believe to be true and have no simple physical falsification. > > I am OK with that, but not if you oppose it to pretend that there is a > flaw in a piece of science. > It is a flaw in the assumed ontological base of science, the idea that 1) observation is not interaction, 2) that it can occur passively and with no thermodynamic cost -exploration of Maxwell's demon proved otherwise-, 3) can be arbitrarily extended. 3) is easily disproven using arguments from topology. Can a single sheet cover a 3-manifold? No! > > You must use your personal conviction to isolate the flaw. Not just repeat > that there is one. > I have told you what the flaw is that I see. You have no explanation for multiple minds in interaction. Descartes himself neglected to consider how minds would interact. If he had, he would have corrected his nonsense. > > Bruno > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/everything-list/TBc_y2MZV5c/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- Kindest Regards, Stephen Paul King Senior Researcher Mobile: (864) 567-3099 stephe...@provensecure.com http://www.provensecure.us/ “This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may be constituted as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, notify sender immediately and delete this message immediately.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.