On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 12:53:33PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > With some competence, I guess you mean. > Without competence, and giving time to the creature, any universal > machine do have an open-ended creativity. Well, certainly in the > sense of Post (I can explain this, but it is a bit technical). >
I'm interested to hear your explanation, but if its what I suspect it will be, I'll be disappointed :). Basically stating that the universal dovetailer emulates creative conscious being does not demonstrate a creative program, which needs to be creative relative to us (as observers). But if your idea is something different, I'm all ears! > > > > >I haven't had a chance to study and understand Post's definition (sure > >I've looked at it, but didn't grok it), but if you say it is > >equivalent to universality, then its not really going to contribute to > >the solution. > > I am not sure. Open ended creativity seems to me well captured by > Post. It makes the machine able to defeat all effective complete > theories about itself. It gives what I often called the comp vaccine > against reductionism. > Well - maybe if you explain more? Cheers -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
