On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:31 AM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is a very interesting point. What is the estimated capacity of the
> human brain? I seem to recalls some 10^17 bits being mentioned somewhere,
> or at least that figure has stuck in my mind (but not having an eidetic
> memory, or much of a normal one, I can't say where from).
>

PCW Davies claims that a human brain neuron requires about 10^120 bits;
and therefore, since this is the Lloyd Limit for the available bits in our
observable universe,
neurons may be at the threshold for consciousness.
http://arxiv.org/ftp/astro-ph/papers/0602/0602420.pdf

>
>
> On 6 February 2014 15:58, Richard Ruquist <yann...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> An aspect of my string cosmology is that the metaverse contains a
>> 4D-space (in which one space axis is time)
>> that records every event that ever happened in this and every universe
>> much like the Akashic Records.
>> Eidetics and gurus can apparently time travel in this block-space.
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Pierz <pier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The phenomenon of eidetic (photographic) memory is well established as a
>>> reality. For an example of what it means, read the top answer to this 
>>> quora.com
>>> question<http://www.quora.com/digest/track_click?hash=2e8ec7de05b636790212092c83f0936e&aoid=pLlVYjWVKa&aoty=2&ty_data=4012999&ty=1&digest_id=241884556&click_pos=1&st=1391558946766537&source=3&stories=1_L4sR6imoEQB%7C1_aytbQbnb2zW%7C1_jA8otFvN9FH%7C1_4XH6bzBFPwr%7C1_4TMBUpDzRpy%7C1_8f6Kgdm4jXW%7C1_XDaAF5TDFVy%7C1_zsSejxTjfe6&v=2&aty=4>.
>>> People with this gift/disability remember every moment of their lives in 
>>> *perfect
>>> *detail. To me this raises real questions about the comp hypothesis and
>>> the 'yes doctor'. Consider the 'RAM' required for this type of recall.
>>> Memories are 3d and 'retina' resolution. If we consider that an hour of
>>> Blu-ray footage consumes about 30Gb, then some rough calculations show that
>>> Blu-ray quality footage of an entire life of 60 years would consume around
>>> 17,000 terabytes of storage. But these memories include tactile, olfactory
>>> and cognitive channels as well as visual and auditory information, and of
>>> course the resolution of the visual system is far better than Blu-ray. I'd
>>> take a rough guess and say that full recording of a person's mental
>>> experience in all external and internal channels would have to require
>>> hundreds or even thousands of times the bandwidth of Blu-ray. But even at
>>> what I'd think would be an extremely conservative estimate of a hundred
>>> times, we're up near two million terabytes (two exabytes). What's more,
>>> there appears to be no strain, no sign of running out of space at all, as
>>> if capacity was simply not an issue. This type of example makes me really
>>> question whether digital prosthetics are a real possibility at all - it
>>> looks to me strongly suggestive of a totally different way of recording
>>> information, or even of the possibility that recording and storage are the
>>> wrong metaphor entirely. 'Christian' in the above quora response says that
>>> he has little means of distinguishing a memory from a live experience,
>>> making for a very confusing mental life. This type of memory looks more
>>> like a kind of time travel than a recording. Perhaps this is still
>>> compatible with Bruno's version of comp - the universal subject inhabiting
>>> the pure space of Number - but it's more problematic for step one of the
>>> whole argument that leads to this vision, namely saying 'yes' to a digital
>>> brain.
>>>
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