On Monday, March 10, 2014 5:48:42 AM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
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> On 7 March 2014 15:46, Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com <javascript:>>wrote:
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>> If the doctor became more ambitious, and decided to replace a species 
>> with a simulation, we have a ready example of what it might be like. Cars 
>> have replaced the functionality of horses in human society. They reproduce 
>> in a different, more centralized way, but otherwise they move around like 
>> horses, carry people and their possessions like horses, they even evolve 
>> into new styles over time. 
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>> Notice, however, that despite our occasional use of a name like Pinto or 
>> Mustang, no horse-like properties have emerged from cars. They do not 
>> whinny or swat flies. They do not get spooked and send their drivers 
>> careening off of the road. They did not develop DNA. Certainly a car does 
>> not perform as many complex computations as a horse, but neither does it 
>> need to. The function of a horse really doesn't need to be very 
>> complicated. A Google self-driving car is a better horse for almost all 
>> practical purposes than a horse.
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>> Maybe the doctor can replace all species with a functional equivalent? We 
>> could even do without all of the moving around and just keep the cars in 
>> the factory in which they are built and include a simulation screen on each 
>> windshield that interacts with Google Maps. With a powerful enough 
>> artificial intelligence, why not replace function altogether?
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>> I don't think you understand the essential idea of functionalism, which 
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Multiple realisability is the problem. A digital file can be rendered to 
our visual sense as a graphic design or to our audio sense as music. It can 
also be copied, translated, or functionally manipulated in every way 
without being rendered at all.
 

> You try to think of analogies to show that it's not obvious, but we know 
> it's not obvious. However, it's true.
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It's even less obvious than you think. What you are thinking is not obvious 
is only halfway there.
 

> You don't address the arguments showing it to be true. It's like focussing 
> on how we would fall off the earth if it were round but failing to explain 
> the photos from space.
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 What argument specifically are you saying that I don't address?

Craig


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