Bruno:
That's correct, but we assume usually "classical" quantum mechanics. Then,
even if GR digitalizes the access to futures, it seems to me that QM will
still provide the rooms for immortality (not necessarily a good news).
Then, in such reasoning, QM uses comp, and comp by itself leads to many
forms of immortalities, if I can say.
Richard:
I fail to understand how comp prevents natural aging which IMO must go on
in every branch of the universe. If so, no immortality.
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
>
> On 15 Mar 2014, at 20:04, meekerdb wrote:
>
> On 3/14/2014 7:21 PM, Matt Bell wrote:
>>
>>> This may very possibly be an idea that has already been discussed (I am
>>> very new to this topic, so I'm still exploring the landscape of ideas), but
>>> it has been on my mind recently.
>>>
>>> If you subscribe to the theories of MWI/UDA, then the idea of quantum
>>> immortality/suicide follows (an observer only perceives universes where it
>>> continues to exist, so from its perspective it exists forever). From this,
>>> it follows that an observer can "program" the universe into any possible
>>> state with the following process:
>>>
>>> - Choose a condition for the universe (e.g. "It will start raining at my
>>> location within 10 seconds.")
>>> - Evaluate whether you are in a universe where the condition is true
>>> ("10 seconds have passed. Has it started raining?")
>>> - If the condition is false, stop existing (in a human context, suicide
>>> :/).
>>> - If the process was followed correctly (the condition was evaluated
>>> accurately) the observer should only exist in universes with the chosen
>>> state
>>>
>>> This relies on the assumption that there is a possible universe where
>>> the condition is true, and that the condition can be effectively evaluated.
>>>
>>> I'm not yet sure about what to think about conditions about past events.
>>> What happens if the chosen condition was "It started raining less than an
>>> hour ago."? This would possibly work as expected if you don't evaluate the
>>> condition until after you chose it (you were in a soundproof, windowless
>>> room for the last hour, so you didn't know it started raining until after
>>> you decided on the condition).
>>>
>>> Any thoughts? Or relevant material I should know about? Also, let me
>>> know if there's some huge flaw in my thinking.
>>>
>>
>> A possible flaw is that, if the holographic principle is true, that there
>> are not nearly so many possible future states as you may suppose. What is
>> "possible" in QM is not the same as "logically conceivable".
>>
>
> That's correct, but we assume usually "classical" quantum mechanics. Then,
> even if GR digitalizes the access to futures, it seems to me that QM will
> still provide the rooms for immortality (not necessarily a good news).
> Then, in such reasoning, QM uses comp, and comp by itself leads to many
> forms of immortalities, if I can say.
>
> Bruno
>
>
>
>> Brent
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