On Friday, April 11, 2014 11:21:29 PM UTC-4, Kim Jones wrote: > > > On 12 Apr 2014, at 4:47 am, spudb...@aol.com <javascript:> wrote: > > Interesting, Professor Marchal. From what I have read some lucid dreamers > can actually feel the metal top of a car, or the feel of a wooden fence as > the dream 'walks' by. Plus, the dreamer knows he is dreaming. > > > > Last night I had a lucid dream (must be this thread getting into the > unconscious and stirring all sorts of things up.) Your typical flying > dream, complete with the waving of arms/wings flapping in order to > levitate. It was all quite natural and easy. I “flew” up outside the > apartment block where I live, to inspect the outside of the building (in > “reality” we are about to undergo a re-pinning operation as the mortar is > crumbling in spots) and I remember assuring myself as I was zooming around > the outside that “yes, this is obviously where I live”. At the same time, > “I” was able to observe myself in the act of believing falsity. > > I could see that the building I was hovering outside (just like an avatar > in Second Life”) looked absolutely NOTHING like the building in which I > really live, yet I both believed it was the true and correct building and > simultaneously observed myself in the act of believing something false. > Both states involved a level of self-observation and belief. >
Nice. I think this hints at the narrowness of modal assumptions about consciousness. Qualia is not just belief or a function of belief, as it can be both believed and disbelieved on different levels of awareness at the same time. > > Kim > > ============================ > > Kim Jones B.Mus.GDTL > > Email: kimj...@ozemail.com.au <javascript:> > Mobile: 0450 963 719 > Landline: 02 9389 4239 > Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com > > "Never let your schooling get in the way of your education" - Mark Twain > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
