My theory describes the internal structure of electrons, photons, protons, atomic nuclei, magnetism, gravity, what preceded the Big Bang, universe contraction, inflation and anti-gravity. In the (you would say very unlikely) event that it turns out that I am correct and existing theories are wrong, I don’t think I will be denied the Nobel prize because I haven’t explained Mercury’s precession.
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 9:35 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: TRONNIES On Sun, May 18, 2014 John Ross <jr...@trexenterprises.com> wrote: > I plan to save your e-mails and maybe I will read some of them to the > audience if and when it turns out that I am correct and am awarded the Nobel > prize in Physics. Wow what a honor, my humble words read out to the entire Swedish Academy! > I believe Albert Einstein misinterpreted the Michelson-Morley experiment. > That experiment proved that the measured speed of light was always constant. > It did not prove that the actual speed of light is always constant. If the measured speed of light is never the "actual" speed of light then what does "actual" even mean? Exactly what is so great about the "actual" speed, what makes it more "actual" then the measured speed? > I believe light travels in Coulomb grids Nobody but you knows what " Coulomb grids" are and nobody but you knows what "the Coulomb force" is. > Do you understand how Albert Einstein explained the advance of Mercury’s > perihelion? I certainly don’t. You expect to receive a Nobel Prize in physics but you haven't even bothered to look at groundbreaking work in this area done a century ago? > Although I have no reason to believe that My theory would not also explain > the advance. You expect to receive the Nobel Prize in physics but you haven't even bothered to use your own theory to calculate what it predicts Mercury’s precession of perihelion should be?! Newton said it should be 531.65 +- .69 arc-seconds per century, but the observed value is 574.10 +- .65. Einstein used his theory to derive a formula for the precession of a planet per orbit, it's 24*pi^3*a^3/ cT^2(1-e^2) where a is the semimajor axis of the planet's orbit, c is the speed of light, T is the period of the planet's orbit, and e is the eccentricity of the planet's orbit. When you plug the numbers for Mercury into Einstein's formula you get a value of 574.63 +- .04 arc-seconds per century, in excellent agreement with observation and vastly better than Newton. Before you but a ticket to Stockholm and start writing your acceptance speech you need to derive a formula for the precession of perihelion of the planets and hope it agrees with observation even better than Einstein's formula. John K Clark I believe my theory explains gravity much better than Albert Einstein did. You are right that I have more to work with than Einstein. About 100 years of science. John R From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2014 4:01 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: TRONNIES On 18 May 2014 07:38, John Ross <jr...@trexenterprises.com> wrote: I believe there is a need for my model because I believe it is a great improvement over existing currently accepted models. I get that, but everyone with a theory believes that. I'm interested in the specific flaws with the standard model that it fixes, and / or the reasoning that leads you to believe that it is better. (The reasoning should be the reasoning, not just a description of the end result of the reasoning!) For example, I believe special relativity addresses the problems that Maxwell's equations break down for an object moving near lightspeed, and the anomalous results of the Michelson-Morley experiment, while general relativity addresses the advance of Mercury's perihelion. They are both based on equivalence principles, SR being that no moving observers should be privileged, GR on the equivalence between aceleration and gravity (the apparently fortuitous fact that the mass values in F=ma and F=Gm/r^2, if I have those right, is the same). So you can see how Einstein used certain principles he believed to be fundamental to support his reasoning, and how the results fixed particular problems with the existing models. I would expect your theory to have similar theoretical and experimental underpinnings if it's to be taken seriously. You're probably in a better position than Einstein as far as time and resources go since he was working in the Swiss patent office at the time he developed SR, if I remember correctly. My book should be in your hands in a very few days if it is not already there. I suggest you read it a decide for yourself whether it has any merit. After you have read it, I suggest you give it to your son. If you do so, warn him that his professors probably are great supporters of the standard model and relativity. Also see my response to John Clark. They are great supporters with good reason! But of course they know those theories can't both be correct... John Ross From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 2:36 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: TRONNIES Apparently gamme rays are emitted by nuclei when they drop from an excited state to a lower energy state (much as a lower energy photon can be emitted when an electron in an atom moves from a high to a low energy state). Hence what the atom had beforehand was excess energy (in some form). I assume one of the particles making up the nucleus was in some state equivalent to an electron being in an outer electron shell, and drops into its ground state after a while. I can check with my son, who is studying nuclear physics at school at this very moment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isomeric_transition#Decay_processes I must say it is ominous that you are consistently failing to answer my questions about the reasoning behind all of this, but just picking on some small simple point each time and ignoring most of my posts. I'm beginning to wonder how much reasoning there actually was. I still don't know why you think there is a need for this model, what questions is answers that the original fails to, etc. On 17 May 2014 03:44, John Ross <jr...@trexenterprises.com> wrote: A radioactive atom that decays with a gamma ray photon has within itself before it decays something that will be released as a gamma ray photon when it decays. That something (I say that something is an entron) has a mass equivalent to the energy of the gamma ray photon. When the decay occurs the mass of the atom decreases by an amount equal to the mass of the gamma ray photon and the gamma ray photon leaves with a mass equivalent to the energy of the gamma ray photon. How can you disagree with this simple logic? In your analysis is that something “rest mass” and if it is not what is it? JR From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 12:23 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: TRONNIES On 16 May 2014 06:54, John Ross <jr...@trexenterprises.com> wrote: LizR, See my reply to Russell. I know this is going to upset you but in my model every single photon in our Universe has a mass and that mass is determined by E = mc squared. This is true in relativity as well. Specifically the 1.02 MeV gamma ray photon has the same mass as the combined mass of the electron and a positron. Visible light photons have a very small mass. The green light photon has a much smaller mass of 4.08 X 10-36 kg. You can calculate it yourself using Albert’s formula. My neutrino photon has a mass almost equal to the mass of a proton! We know a photon has momentum which should indicate that it also has mass. I think the problem is that no one wants to admit that a photon has a mass because it is travelling at the speed of light which should make that mass go to infinity Only if it has a rest mass, which it doesn't. . I don’t have that problem with my model. All of this is explained very well in my book which should be arriving in about one week. John R. From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 2:32 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: TRONNIES On 15 May 2014 04:59, John Ross <jr...@trexenterprises.com> wrote: I assume you would agree that a photon is self-propelled. Protons and alpha particles are also self-propelled. They are sel-propelled by their own internal coulomb forces. Electrons, protons, atomic nuclei and atoms are all perpetual motion machines. You have to give a better explanation than that. According to all our current theories and observations, photons and other massless particles are in a different category from particles that have a rest mass. You need to explain why we should assume there is any equivalence between a massless particle that always travels at c, as measured in all reference frames, and a massive particle which travels at some fraction of c, a fraction that will vary depending on which frame its velocity is measured in. Also, a photon doesn't violate Galilean, Newtonian or Einsteinian relativity. Self propelled particles do - they define an absolute state of rest. I know of no observational reason to assume an absolute state of rest exists, although this is suggested by the idea that space-time is quantised. (But then I believe you reject quantum mechanics?) In any case, I wouldn't describe a photon as "self" propelled. It is created with a certain energy and momentum that are supplied by the emitter, and which it eventually passes on to the absorber. In between it doesn't gain or lose energy (except when it climbs out of or falls into gravity wells, or travels across an expanding or contracting universe - but these can't be described as self propulsion). Sorry but your above answer is a hand waving argument at best. It needs detailed theoretical backing, and explicit answers to the questions I've given above, plus any others that may come up (e.g. there was mention of the "ultraviolet catastrophe" earlier - was that resolved?) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. 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