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From: spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
>>You have offered no solutions,
Solution to what, exactly? There is no problem that requires solving, in the
first place! You demand that we embark on a radical course of action; on a
total global war, a clash of civilizations as you say. Yet you are unable to
show that in fact there is a problem at all. The US is under no existential
threat from a few thousand medieval minded malcontents tooling around on Toyota
pickups in the Syrian desert. You believe we are, but are unable to show anyone
-- not just myself -- that this rises to the level of requiring the world to
fight a global war.
>>and seem to want none, Chris.
Again... you have failed to provide any substantial evidence that there is in
fact a problem in the first place. You are the one demanding radical action.
Yet you cannot even provide evidence that a problem exists.
>>You don't see a problem or don't want to acknowledge that there is one.
Nope... don't see the problem! There exists no problem to acknowledge, and you
have been unable to demonstrate otherwise.
>>This is pretty normal avoidance behavior,
No this is pretty normal -- asking the person who is proposing radical action
to provide supporting evidence -- behavior.
>>and I was never attempting to persuade you with either facts or passion. I
>>contend its a real threat, I believe it will likely grow worse, and will
>>likely come due, fairly soon. It's hard to predict and I am not in the spook
>>side of things, so no hard knowledge.
Yes... we all know you contend this. But you are unable to support your
contentions with facts. Are you therefore suggesting that the world must
therefore becoem subjected to a global war... because a certain person using
the handle spudboy "contends" that we must?
spudboy... you have nothing besides your own paranoid convictions, unsupported
by fact. Why should anyone pay any attention to the blood lust Crusade you are
yammering on about?
>>Your guy
Who is my guy? And how do you know? Are you a mind reader now?
>> is not a guy who is interested in national protection, unless it impacts
>> himself, his families, his financiers, and supporters in that order.
The executive branch of our government is not one guy by the way... you seem to
have a simpletons view of how government operates.
>>I conclude that this worldview will invite attack.
Who cares what your fact free conclusions are? Really... who cares spudboy? I
certainly don't care what fact free conclusions you reach in your own brain....
all I care is that you keep these fact free "conclusions" contained within your
own skull.
>>You will dismiss this,
Yes, I will, and am. It is fact free hate mongering.
>>but this is what ideologists of your type do.
This is what rational thinking people do when confronted by those who demand
extreme radical measures be taken... and who then go on to accuse anyone
disagreeing with them of being traitors to their country.
Keep your eye on the news, try and follow what the Islamists say to each other,
preferably in Arabic or Farsi. Remember, its mektoub!
How about you present a few actual facts to back your radical demands up?
Cheers,
Chris
As expected you present zero actual evidence to support your extremist violent
views. Feel free to keep digging yourself deeper into a hole... and know that
you are doing this to yourself, all by yourself.
>
>
>Oh... and your stream of poorly written insults, could really use some
>grammatical improvement. You have a very poor command of language; might want
>to work on those elementary skills.
>Cheers,
>Chris
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>
>(There I go... saying Cheers again... how very un-American of me)
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From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Jul 9, 2014 3:48 pm
Subject: Re: American Intelligence
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From: spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Americans don't say "cheers." Bwah hah hah hah! Now you do have the capability
to exclude mail recipients if you are using Outlook.The "One quarter of the
human race" statement should clarify to anyone concerned, that you're not
deciding on principle, but fear, which is zero surprise. The ad hominem
utterances, all came from the Left field, so to speak. You and your comrade,
Plutocratic Cowpie do the invective first and foremost, if you want to view the
old, emails. How dare I get down to your level!! But, remember, I used to be
one of you shmoopies remember?
As expected you present zero actual evidence to support your extremist violent
views. Feel free to keep digging yourself deeper into a hole... and know that
you are doing this to yourself, all by yourself.
Oh... and your stream of poorly written insults, could really use some
grammatical improvement. You have a very poor command of language; might want
to work on those elementary skills.
Cheers,
Chris
(There I go... saying Cheers again... how very un-American of me)
As hearing your obnoxious characterizations of my person and position holds
little interest for me, unless you have some actual evidence, to support your
extreme view, kindly try to keep your stream of paranoid invective to yourself.
>Cheers,
>Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Jul 9, 2014 2:08 pm
Subject: Re: American Intelligence
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From: spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
>>Sure, there is always human paranoia as component is any perceived threat.
>>Your qualification of yourself as a "reasonable person" is kind of a stretch.
>>You have come across as a determined ideologist, rather then someone
>>pragmatic. Giving you a sales pitch for which you are tone-deaf, as an act of
>>"faith," is not doable. At the end of the day, I would opt for a clash of
>>civilizations, which it surely, now, appears, to be, over our defeat. I never
>>said it was the only means of self defense, but if its necessary, I'd say
>>yes, You found this unacceptable, and still do, and thus its a conundrum. For
>>you, every war is Vietnam, every conduct of such a war would have been like
>>William Westmoreland conducted it-which assured victory for the North. You
>>cannot be risk averse and still see to US survival-or anyone elses.
As I expected, you have nothing substantial to say, beyond attacking me
personally. It is clear by now that you are unable to provide any actual real
evidence that could lead "a reasonable person" to conclude you actually have
an arguable case for why a clash of civilizations is inevitable and we must all
march off on your genocidal Crusade to be waged without pity against one
quarter of humankind.
The continuing stream of vague shadowy threats and strident assertions, on your
part, that the menace "is real" count for nothing.
Spudboy, I am forced to conclude that you are delusional & paranoid, and I
strongly suggest you seek help.
As hearing your obnoxious characterizations of my person and position holds
little interest for me, unless you have some actual evidence, to support your
extreme view, kindly try to keep your stream of paranoid invective to yourself.
Cheers,
Chris
What will surely be coming spudboy? And since you are so certain surely then
you have clear and convincing evidence of a factual nature that would convince
any reasonable person that you are surely right. Until you have such clear and
incontrovertible evidence can you kindly please keep your personal paranoia
bottled up inside your own brain.
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