________________________________ From: John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: Re: How will air travel work in a green solar economy? On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> So it looks like my estimate that if you want to go with solar then a >> factory that covered 6 square miles of the Earth’s surface would be needed >> to keep just one 747 in the air may have been a a bit on the low side. >> >> It seems rather more likely that jet fuel will be provided by synthetic >> (engineered) algae grown in hot desert areas using brackish -- or sea -- >> water The efficiency of photosynthesis at capturing the sun's energy is between 3% and 6% depending on the particular plant, the efficiency of my solar cells was 15%. So to keep just one 747 in the air you will need either 6 square miles of solar cells or about 18 square miles of nasty algae ponds. Do you really thing such a monstrosity would be a lesser insult to the land than one LFTR which would have a footprint that was smaller by a factor of more than a million? John K Clark Algae biofuels can be produced on land that is currently producing nothing. Each square kilometer of barren desert land (+ a source of slat or brackish water that cannot be used for growing crops) can yield 4,000+ tons of high grade jet fuel per year... worth at current market prices around $4 million. Though algae biofuels are quite ready for prime time yet -- as I mentioned there are still problems harvesting the green goo and squeezing the valuable oil (and other by-products) out of it... but it surely holds promise as a potential source of high quality liquid hydrocarbon. Have you driven through the deserts of Arizona or Sonora state in Mexico lately -- empty desert land is not exactly in short supply... you know. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: How will air travel work in a green solar economy?
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