On Saturday, November 15, 2014 4:27:31 PM UTC, zib...@gmail.com wrote:
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> On Saturday, November 15, 2014 8:30:37 AM UTC, Samiya wrote:
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>> On 15-Nov-2014, at 12:31 pm, LizR <liz...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Organised religion in its entirety is a veiled threat.
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>> Temporally, yes, because it is abused by humans against humans. However, 
>> temporal worries and troubles should not deter us from seeking the eternal. 
>> We come alone and we leave alone, and where we came from and where we are 
>> headed are giant question marks. Is our temporal existence without any 
>> purpose? Something within me says that there is a purpose and there is much 
>> more before and after our temporal existence, and we are here to figure 
>> that out, so that we can head in the right direction when it's time to head 
>> onwards in the eternal journey, or that is my fairytale
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> That's a nice fairy tale, that is to your credit. 
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> But the big fairytale with you, is that you are an honest emissary of 
> Islam to other peoples and cultures. Being honest means facing up to hard 
> questions, and spending a lot of time seeing things through the eyes of the 
> people you want to be an emissary to. Not to beat them in argument. But to 
> understand, and to experience where appropriate sobering realities about 
> your religion as it happens on the ground in reality, and your people as 
> they happen on the ground in other peoples societies and cultures. 
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> You don't do anything of this. I've tracked. You don't. 
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> So there it is. The real fairytale 
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sorry that was harsher than I had in  mind at outset. This reflects a more 
general problem on my side...not personal

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