On 1 Jan 2015, at 11:46 am, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > >> On 12/31/2014 4:22 PM, Kim Jones wrote: >> >> >> On 31 Dec 2014, at 6:17 am, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: >> >>>> Eventually I conclude that atheism is *really* the religious mirror of >>>> christianity. They have the same notion of God (even if it is used only to >>>> be denied) and they have the same notion of primary matter (modulo some >>>> details). >>> Exactly. The same notion of "God" used by everybody who prays to a god, >>> has faith in a god, and has a religion based on a god. Atheists are quite >>> clear on what sort of being they do not believe exists and you are the only >>> person I know who seems to think it is a fault to be clear about ones >>> meaning. >>> >>> Brent >> So atheists therefore leave the door open to definitions of God other than >> the ones for which they have been clear there is no evidence? Is that what >> you are saying? I don't think So. > > Neither do I. "God" has a fairly clear common meaning,
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm.........nope > but when I want to be really precise I may say "Abrahamic God" or "God of > monotheism". Why not go the whole hog and really nail it: Aristotle's Matter God. It comes to that, surely. The buck stops here. With God. You cannot pass the problem further down the line! No further thinking possible or required. Act. Once the G word is used in thinking, it's kind of like the sound of a rifle being cocked. Trouble is G is always on my side and I'm maybe halfway insane as it is. > >> What about the definition of God that you don't pray to, don't have faith >> in, don't know of any religion about? Are atheists OK with that, are they? > > Like "God is love." That's fine. Can't see any problems with that. > or "God is goodness." Depends who G's showering the goodness on. What if I don't like them? > or "God is money." Yes, the Wolf of Wall Street really rammed that home. > I'm OK with metaphor. As to the god(s) of religions I don't know > about...well, I don't know about them. I'll let you get away with that barefaced lie Brent Meeker only because it is Xmas, NY and in addition, my birthday. I hope you are able to catch a run of the Sydney fireworks online somewhere - always a bog boom HNY Kim > > Brent > And Jesus said unto them, "And whom do you say that I am?" > They replied, "You are the eschatological manifestation of > the ground of our being, the ontological foundation of > the context of our very selfhood revealed." > And Jesus replied, "What??" Love it. Love it. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
