Yeah, yeah, we can both agree the French and British sucked. If you want to make them accurately, uncomfortable, mention the Belgian rubber empire in the 19th century. Their king, a labor reformer at home, over saw the murder of maybe 8 million people over 20 years, on rubber plantations. Human history is replete with slaughter. Now that things are a bit more civilized, it'd be a tragedy for the west to lose out to Islamist savages-which is what they are, just like we were, not so long ago. The French for example. are supine, even in the face of an Islamist attack 2 weeks ago. This is not a sign of peace, but a sign of a failing society.
-----Original Message----- From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sun, Jan 25, 2015 9:08 pm Subject: RE: Why was nobody murdered because of this cartoon? From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Platonist Guitar Cowboy Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 5:30 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why was nobody murdered because of this cartoon? On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:51 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Just stop defending the indefensible islamists and refrain from making excuses for them. They are all adults and can speak for themselves. They believe what the believe, and it is neither my fault, nor even yours. The world is now slowly waking up to what is occuring, even to this day, the Japanese. I am sorry that disagreeing with your holy self is considered trolling. But thats what makes ball games. Deal with it. What "makes the ball game" is people sowing fear and reaping aggression on all sides by committing violent acts for political and economic gain, which is a threat. It's perhaps a fine line between recognizing this fact and falling prey to the PR ploy as recognizing the fact brings our own political lines, which furthers the ploy's objective, into play. Brent made a good point: compare violence to potency of other threats. I'd add cui bono, obligatory grain of salt, and maybe we don't need cartoons to replace our thinking or humor. PGC It would behoove us to at least recognize that the roots of the problems in the middle east run deeper than offense at a cartoon. It is a complex mess with deep historical roots going back to the Ottoman period and on through the period of French and British colonial rule. There are no easy solutions and the problem is not going away. In order to manage the situation, as it has become, we need to at the very least have a clear and comprehensive understanding of the issues and forces that are driving resurgent medievalism in the middle east (but not only there… there is a surge of the medievalist mind in the USA, and I imagine to some degree in Western Europe as well) -Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
