On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:40 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:

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>  >> If we build computers that discuss and question their own
>> consciousness and qualia I'd consider that proof enough that they are.
>
>
> > But is that the standard of intelligence?  JKC argues
> intelligence=>consciousness.  What if they discuss and question their own
> consciousness, but say stupid things about it?
>

Ah,...I've been on this list for a long time and I know one thing for sure,
if stupid remarks about consciousness were proof of non-consciousness then
human beings are not conscious.

 John K Clark

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