RE: TEPCO admits Fukushima Daiichi Unit 1 core completely melted down

['Chris de Morsella' via Everything List]

 

 

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Subject: Re: TEPCO admits Fukushima Daiichi Unit 1 core completely melted down

 

 

 

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 5:41 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List 
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On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 3:48 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List 
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I am saying that I don't know if uranium fission can be made safer, and 
cheaper. I also think that part of the cost is waste management. I think that 
natural gas, solar and wind (with Storage) may now be the past of least 
resistance.

 

Fair enough. I don't know either, I just have the impression that a lot of 
people who protest nuclear power (and influence political decisions) also don't 
know.

 

 

The same statement could be made about, most people who support nuclear power – 
and also influence political decisions -- how many supporters of nuclear power 
do you think actually understand how nuclear power works (beyond the vaguest 
generalities); what its issues are and what the potential risks are?

 

Fair enough.

One can dream about a Star Trek world where these decisions are driven by 
honest science.

 

Instead (at least in the US) we have the best government money can buy.

Chris

 

Telmo.

 

 

 

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From: Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com>
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Sent: Sat, Mar 21, 2015 5:24 pm
Subject: Re: TEPCO admits Fukushima Daiichi Unit 1 core completely melted down

 

 

On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 10:08 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: 

On 3/21/2015 9:05 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: 

We can yap about technology but it's all out of our hands. Nuclear fission has 
taken permanent hit because of its cost$. It's not safety that halted uranium, 
but money. In a darwinian fashion, natural gas has superseded  uranium, from a 
cost-price ratio. Could fission or solar re-take the hill top any time soon? 
Will fusion ever be there? Don't know, and since I have no power to influence, 
don't care. 


That's because fossil fuels don't pay for the environmental damage they do 

 

The problem I have with this argument is that it assumes that either: 

 

a) there is some straightforward way of converting money into environmental 
damage mitigation, or 

b) that the disincentive introduced by making fossil fuels less lucrative would 
lead to their replacement with cleaner technologies. 

  

and because the exaggerated fear of radiation drives up the cost of nuclear 
power.

 

>From my limited knowledge nuclear power seems to be the best shot at b). I 
>tend to agree with JCK that Fukushima can be taken as a reason to trust 
>nuclear power more: a perfect storm of natural disasters struck a nuclear 
>power plan based on old technology and still nobody died. But Chris claim that 
>the tragic effects may only be detectable in the long term also seems 
>reasonable. 

 

Telmo. 

  


Brent

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