On 26 Mar 2015, at 22:22, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/26/2015 12:03 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Agreed. But the question is more between :are we fundamentally
mammals living on earth, or are we universal numbers living in
arithmetic, deluded by oracles or other universal numbers.
That seems to me to be the same as the question am I a brain in a vat.
OK, but it is not the same. That would be is stopping at UDA step 6.
So long as the BIV simulation is good enough, as long as the
arithmetic relations are right, there's no discernible difference.
Yes, but there are no brains, nor vats. Then, if you agree that 17 is
odd, even for God, the simple arithmetical truth implies the existence
(in the same sense of the existence of prime numbers, or the existence
of combinators and their reductions) of a web of machine's histories
and experiences. If there are no discernible difference, they build up
in the global FPI. No doubt some special universal (or not) numbers
can play roles, but it is an open question if it is a physical thing
(and what would that mean) or not.
Bruno
Brent
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