On 14 May 2015, at 07:57, Bruce Kellett wrote:

Russell Standish wrote:
On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 02:51:00PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote:
But we are always going to have difficulty assigning a truth value
to a counterfactual like: "The present king of France has a beard."

I would expect that somewhere in the Multiverse, France still has a
king in 2015, and has a beard, and somewhere else where he doesn't.

If you are talking of a separate universe outside our Hubble volume then you are going to have difficulty defining exactly what you mean by 'now' or '2015'. The other worlds of the MWI are not even in the same universe, so you are going to have even more difficulty in assigning a truth value to the proposition.

Philosophical 'possible worlds' are quite distinct from multiverse ideas.

Absolutely, but that is why it is interesting if some philosophical hypothesis (comp) can force a relation between them, like making QM the measure of the computation (in the "classical-Church-Turing" sense).

Then the math confirms this, as proved by the Löbian universal machine itself, as on the p sigma_1, the first person variant of the 3p G ([]p), that is []p & p, []p & <>t, and []p & <>t & p, provides a quantization (namely [i]<i>p, with [i] being the corresponding modality of the variants).

I think that with comp, Heisenberg-Pauli-Fuchs are as much correct than Everett. The quantum, and also themrmodynamic are already bridge to a theory of mind, and with comp, eventually a theory of numbers and other CT-universal systems.

Bruno


Bruce

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