2015-10-04 15:26 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com>:

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> On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 1:26 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List <
> everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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>> As the simulation runs at the speed of light, we'd have to drive very
>> fast and randomly, indeed.
>
>
> Ok, but suppose that the simulation has limited resources and only
> computes some sphere around the current part of the universe you're
> observing. Then it might do some predictive analysis to pre-compute likely
> future states. Driving randomly would be an attempt to fuck with that
> algorithm.
>

That presupose you're not part yourself of the algorithm... so where is
your consciousness computed ? If you're computed along everything else...
you can't escape it, as from the pov of what is computing, you don't do
something unpredicted, because that would mean you're doing something the
algorithm has not computed... but it's a plain contradiction with the
premises which is you're computed by it.

Quentin


> Of course this would have to be a scenario where our perception channels
> are hijacked but our cognition is performed in the real world. If Our
> cognition is part of the simulation, it can just take more
> outside-the-simulation time to compute the next simulation moment and the
> inhabitants of the simulation won't notice.
>
>
>> It is a simulation, or rather, a computation, such as a statistical
>> mechanics analysis. The boot up and power on and self test, was the Big
>> Bang.
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> My view is that the big bang is the simplest possible state, so it's the
> common ancestor of all possible states, so if you look far enough in time
> your are bound to observe it. My crazy hypothesis is that the instant of
> the big bang is shared by all universes and belongs to all histories.
>
>
>> here's another completely, off the wall, point of view. The challenge is
>> not merely, to discover what is true, but to discover what is true, and
>> then use this against despair.
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>
> I agree.
>
>
>> Consider this a super-goal, perhaps one that is best resolved by
>> hypercomputing. This utilizes both the cerebrum and the amygdala, to
>> achieve this goal. We use the cerebrum to discover, we use the amygdala to
>> decide when we are pleased with the result.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com>
>> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Sun, Oct 4, 2015 6:28 am
>> Subject: Re: Mandela effect?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 9:05 PM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
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>>> Never heard of it before.
>>>
>>> http://www.skeptic.com/insight/the-mandela-effect/
>>>
>>
>>
>> I have heard about it, and found it silly (I agree with the link and with
>> what Bruno said).
>>
>> It is fun to see how the Internet enables kids to explore weird ideas
>> though:
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/mandelaeffect
>>
>> I remember when me and a friend, after failing to impress some girls at a
>> bar, started philosophizing about the nature of reality. We came up with
>> the sort of ideas that later became popular in the Matrix (and were popular
>> before in smaller circles, of course), and decided to test the simulation.
>> Our hypothesis was that, if we started driving fast and always choosing a
>> random path, we would eventually break the simulation's ability to "keep
>> up". It didn't work, but these days we could have started an Internet
>> movement.
>>
>> Best,
>> Telmo.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Brent
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