On 7/07/2017 12:50 am, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 06 Jul 2017, at 14:22, Bruce Kellett wrote:
On 6/07/2017 5:55 pm, Russell Standish wrote:
And assuming conscious classic digital machines, quantum phenomenology
appears at the observed level - a result in line with Bruno Marchal's
FPI result.
Prove it. Bruno has failed to do so -- his person duplication thought
experiments do not reproduce quantum behaviour.
Which one? Z1*, X1*, or S4Grz1? If you know about a physical facts
contradicting those theories, I would be pleased to know. The person
duplication experience just shows that physics is given by a "sum" on
all computations, seen from internal points of view imposed by
incompleteness, and until now, as modest as the results can be, the
three propositional physics are still not refuted. I am not sure you
have studied them, because you have shown not knowing the basic
theories needed to apprehend them, so it looks you are just inventing
something here.
The point that I was trying to make to Russell was that since purely
classical machines can exhibit consciousness means that you cannot
derive quantum mechanics from consciousness alone. And neither does the
fact that you might have found a couple of objects that do not commute
mean that you have derived QM. Else the person who first noted that
rotations in 3 dimensions do not commute could be said to have
discovered QM!
Bruce
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