On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 6:56:52 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 18 Nov 2017, at 21:32, agrays...@gmail.com <javascript:> wrote: > > > > On Saturday, November 18, 2017 at 1:17:25 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 11/18/2017 8:58 AM, John Clark wrote: >> >> * > I think "must" is unwarranted, certainly in the case of the MWI. >>> Rather, it ASSUMES all possible measurements must be realized in some >>> world. **I see no reason for this assumption other than an >>> insistence to fully reify the wf in order to avoid "collapse".* >>> >> >> The MWI people don't have to assume anything because >> there is absolutely nothing in t >> he Schrodinger >> Wave E >> quation >> about collapsing, its the Copenhagen people who have to assume that >> somehow it does. >> >> >> It's not just an assumption. It's an observation. The SE alone didn't >> explain the observation, hence the additional ideas. >> >> Brent >> > > *Moreover, MWI DOES make additional assumptions, as its name indicates, > based on the assumption that all possible measurements MUST be measured, in > this case in other worlds. * > > > That is not an assumption. It is the quasi-literal reading of the waves. > It is Copenhagen who added an assumption, basically the assumption that the > wave does not apply to the observer: they assumed QM was wrong for the > macroscopic world (Bohr) or for the conscious mind (Wigner, von Neumann) > depending where you put the cut. >
*CMIIAW, but I see it, the postulates tell us the possible results of measurements. They don't assert that every possible measurement will be realized. So I see an additional assumption in the MWI. AG* *I reject this hypothesis. What I do concede is that in the case of the > Multiverse of String Theory, if time is infinite and the possible universes > finite -- 10^500 -- all possible universes will be, or have been, realized. > AG* > > > OK, but that is not Everett-Deustch "multiverse" (relative state, > many-worlds, etc.). > *Too much parsing! I was trying to explain that the Multiverse of String Theory is manifestly *different* from the Many Worlds of the MWI. AG * > > Bruno > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
