On 30 Nov 2017, at 18:41, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 4:30:13 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
Very interesting. It confirms the christians might have added this
when their integrist took power, as the "golden rule" is a trap,
leading to the idea that we can think at the place of the other,
which is the base of the religious form of oppression, perhaps all
oppression. It is incredible that they got the rule right before the
christians. If you have some reference again (take it easy: I know
that kind of stuff is often hard to find back). No, jesus did not
improve the rule, and if jesus is responsible to this, then he would
have some responsibility in the rise of integrism. But I doubt that
Jesus made that improvement. That is more plausibly something
attribute to him by the integrist later. I suppose. I will do some
search on the "silver rule". I am glad you find the Silver Rule more
sensible.
Bruno
There is the golden rule: do unto others as you would want done to you
the silver rule Do unto others as they request they do for them
the iron rule do not do to others what you would not want done to you
the lead rule: do things to others before they do things to you
Interesting. The last one looks like a joke, is it not?
If you have references, I am interested. (The "Löbian rule" is
missing: don't do to others what they would not want to be done to
them, although the silver rule seems to be the closest).
I see came with some news today about Garrison Keillor, who is
accused of sex abuse now. It appears the offense stems from his
rubbing the back of a woman coworker on Prairie Home Companion where
his hand inadvertently touched the skin on her lower back. This is
not just grey in morality, but white with a few dots on it. Franken
is a bit worse, though I think it is excusable with a bit of
contrition. Moore is more grey, though so far I don't think there
are recent accusations. It gets greyer and more black with
Weinstein, Trump and Cosby. Then comes the news that the rightwing
fake news group that did the whole thing against ACORN has tried to
get a woman to make an accusation with the intention of exposing
this as a Democratic fake attack.
What does this mean for AI? It means robotic sex partners and
significant others. Seriously, it things are on the cusp of going
completely crazy I think any man would be wise to run from the whole
thing of dating and the rest and just have your Stepford Wife, if
you remember that little dystopian movie. As for the next
generation, well Huxley got that figured out. Children will be
raised in corporate nurseries. Maybe if not the whole human race
might just elect to close it all down. That won't happen, but if I
were in AI right now I would be seeing a huge opportunity for
robotic SOs.
For a time maybe. Until the robotic doll does strikes and fight for
social security, and sue the users.
My current feeling, in part related to computer science, but also on
altered state of consciousness (notably brought by salvia), is that
the universal machine is somehow maximally conscious and maximally
intelligent (but also maximally incompetent). Then, augmenting his
competence diminishes its intelligence. We can't really have both.
Yet, human consciousness requires long histories (deep in Bennett
sense, if you know what it is, if not I can give reference). But de
Chardin said, we are not human having spiritual experience, but are
spiritual being having human experience.
It will take a long time before the man made machine and its
descendants become as stupid as the humans. The christian are right on
this, perhaps, the heaven might belong to the simple minds. The brain
does not create consciousness, but it filters the truth and focus the
attention. But consciousness is only a selector, and with the brain,
becomes an accelerator (for the best and/or the worst).
Bruno
PS I will probably take more time for your QCD post.
Brent
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