On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 02:42:47 PM PDT, Lawrence Crowell <goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 3:37:12 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 1:41 PM, Lawrence Crowell <goldenfield...@gmail. com> wrote:
> The firewall occurs because Hawking radiation that is emitted is entangled with the black hole. However, once the black hole is reduced to half its mass more of the Hawking radiation is entangled with the black hole and previously emitted Hawking radiation. This means previously emitted Hawking radiation in a 2-way or bipartite entanglement is now in a 3-way or tripartite entanglement. This is not a unitary process in quantum mechanics. I understand that part, but I don't understand why breaking the entanglement would make things hot, much less become as hot as its possible for things to be, the Planck temperature. John K Clark The firewall is a conjecture. If you want to avoid this violation of quantum monogomy (a bad term IMO) you then assume there is no transition across the horizon once this violation starts to happen at the Page time. Of course this will not happen all at once and at half the black hole mass, at around 90% the lifetime which for a solar BH is 10^{67} years, there is a transition where the passage across the horizon is problematic. This lack of transition means by some means everything that reaches the horizon is demolished. The horizon in a sense is converted into a singularity. -------------------------I guess that puts the kibosh on any hypothetical black hole adventure tour idea, other than the suicidal kind perhaps... you know, those spendy affairs arranged for inter-galactic gadzillionaires fatigued after millions of years of existence, dreaming of sweet oblivion, to balance the white-out overload of endless being. Or something like that. :) -Chris LC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.