> On 20 Jun 2018, at 17:56, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Jason Resch <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > I am not sure I am seeing the relevance of your comments to what I > said. Are you disputing that computational relations are embodied by > statements concerning solutions to certain polynomial equations? > > No I'm not disputing that, but computational relations couldn't exist without > computations, and computations couldn't exist without matter that obeys the > laws of physics.
Could the number 17 exists without matter? > > > Do you believe "7 is prime" was true before any human mathematician > considered the question? > > Yes, but if there was ever a time when not even one thing existed, much less > seven things, then you could assume 7 is prime and it would produce no > contradictions or you could assume 7 is not prime and it would produce no > contradictions either because the concept of “seven" would be meaningless as > would the concept of “prime". Well... you could assume that except that if > nothing existed then you wouldn't either so you couldn't assume anything nor > could anybody else. I don’t think that this is valid. If you agree that “7 is prime” independently of matter, you will have to believe that “John believes that 17 is prime” is itself independent of matter, once you assume computationalism. Bruno > > John K Clark > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
