On 7/30/2018 8:02 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
*and claims the system being measured is physically in all eigenstates simultaneously before measurement.*


Nobody claims that this is true. But most of us would I think agree that this is what happens if you describe the couple “observer particle” by QM, i.e by the quantum wave. It is a consequence of elementary quantum mechanics (unless of course you add the unintelligible collapse of the wave, which for me just means that QM is false).

This talk of "being in eigenstates" is confused.  An eigenstate is relative to some operator.  The system can be in an eigenstate of an operator.  Ideal measurements are projection operators that leave the system in an eigenstate of that operator.  But ideal measurements are rare in QM.  All the measurements you're discussing in Young's slit examples are destructive measurements.  You can consider, as a mathematical convenience, using a complete set of commuting operators to define a set of eigenstates that will provide a basis...but remember that it's just mathematics, a certain choice of basis.  The system is always in just one state and the mathematics says there is some operator for which that is the eigenstate.  But in general we don't know what that operator is and we have no way of physically implementing it.

Brent

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