On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 1:03:12 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 12:30:33 AM UTC-5, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 9:28:34 PM UTC, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 3:53:04 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/29/2018 1:45 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 8:07:12 PM UTC, Brent wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 9/29/2018 4:34 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> A bacteria is already a computer (at least), >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Really? Then you should be able to identify the entities that store >>>>> binary information. And where is the clock which pulses and advances the >>>>> instruction pointer? And where is the instruction pointer located? AG* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Not all computers are von Neumann computers. >>>>> >>>>> Brent >>>>> >>>> >>>> *Maybe he means a parallel processor, but whatever he means should be >>>> spelled out explicitly. One can't just assert, as if it's obvious, that a >>>> bacteria is already a computer. * >>>> >>>> >>>> Of course it is obvious that a bacterium computes things...like >>>> swimming toward nutrients and how to make another bacterium. >>>> >>>> Brent >>>> >>>> >>> Bacterial computing: a form of natural computing and its applications >>> - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3971165/ >>> >>> Bacteria make computers look like pocket calculators >>> - https://www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2009/jul/24/bacteria-computer >>> >>> Bacteria Can Now Be Programmed Like a Computer >>> - >>> https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/43d9en/bacteria-can-now-be-programmed-like-a-computer >>> >>> >>> - pt >>> >> >> What is a computer -- what is it -- that bacteria can be seen as being >> like? Why bother to define it. Nothing obvious here except sloppy use of >> analogies. AG >> >> >>> >> > > > *What is a computer?* > > A computer is a device that executes programs. > > If we can synthesize bacteria that execute programs (which we can do), > then these bacteria are computers. > > - pt > >
*Scientists have built the most complex biomolecular computer yet and stored a movie* https://spectrum.ieee.org/biomedical/devices/biocomputer-and-memory-built-inside-living-bacteria - pt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
