On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 7:54:19 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote:
>
> On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 6:23 AM Philip Thrift <cloud...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
> *> If experience (Galen Strawson, The Subject of Experience) is the result 
>> of information (only) processing, *
>>
>
> If? If information is not the thing that needs processing to produce 
> intelligence then what is? 
>
> > then the argument for arithmetical (Platonic) reality holds. 
>>
>
> Only if somebody can show how information, or anything else, can be 
> processed without using matter that obeys the laws of physics. And, despite 
> the existence of books made of dead trees with black squiggles made of ink 
> with a high Carbon content pressed onto them, nobody has even come close to 
> doing that. 
>
>  John K Clark
>


It's that experience (not just information) that needs processing to produc*e 
consciousness*. That's the assertion.

It one says intelligence == consciousness (the two are interchangeable), 
then that's a matter of definition.

But I say there can be unconscious (pseudo-)intelligent robots made.

- pt

 

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