On 12/2/2018 7:04 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 4:29 PM Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net <mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:

    /> The Earth is 3.9e22 times heavier than Cavendishes cannon ball. /


The mass of the earth is irrelevant because we're talking about measuring the difference in the strength of gravity as distance increases not its absolute value.

        >> In 1798 technology was good enough for Cavendish to measure
        the gravitational attraction between 2 cannonballs a few
        inches apart (andby doing so determine the value of the
        Gravitational Constant) but until a few months ago no
        technology was good enough to measure the difference in
        strength of a gravitational field that was 637,000,000
        centimeters from the center of the Earth and one that was
        637,000,001 centimeters from the center of the Earth. But the
technology is good enough now thanks to this new clock.

    > /N//o.  The potential difference measured by the cesium clock when
    raised 1cm relative to the Earth was 2.03e9 times bigger than the
    smallest difference measured by Cavendish (assuming he could
    measure 0.00025m deflection).  The Earth is 3.9e22 times heavier
    than Cavendishes cannon ball.     So 300yrs ago Cavendishes
    technology was good enough;/


If you are on the Earth's surface and you raise a clock by one centimeter you've increased its distance from the earth's center by one part in 637,000,000, it is now 1.0000000016 times further away. The intensity of the gravitational field is proportional to the square of the distance so gravity was 1.0000000031 times stronger before you raised raised the clock. Cavendish did not have a scale good enough to measure that, even today the very best (and very expensive) lab weight scale might be able to measure a change of 1.0000001 but the clock can do several hundred times better.

He was measuring the change in a much smaller gravitational field.


    > (assuming he could measure 0.00025m deflection).


When Cavendish measured a deflection he was measuring the strength of the attraction between 2 canon balls, he was not measuring the difference in the gravitational field at 2 points. Cavendish used a torsion balanceand its very good at measuring weak forces but it can't measure the super small difference between 2 strong forces, to do that he'd need a weight scale, or a super accurate clock.

He was measuring the difference between the force on the torsion balance with the cannon balls present vs absent.

Brent

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