> On 25 Apr 2019, at 11:31, Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 at 16:38, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List 
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> You are randomly extrapolating. I think this is called "strawman logical 
> error". Things are not random. There are reasons for why consciousness only 
> exercises its powers in certain conditions. Evolution confined those powers 
> to own body alone, though in some cases indeed you get connections between 
> consciousnesses related to different bodies. But for those as well there are 
> certain reasons for why they happen. 
> 
> Neurons, muscles, tendons, bones are all physically connected and causally 
> linked.  A bone will not move unless a tendon pulls it, a tendon won't pull 
> until the muscle attached to it contracts, the muscle won't contract unless 
> the peripheral nerve it is attached to fires, the nerve won't fire unless 
> upper motor neurons with projections in the spinal cord fire, those nerves 
> won't fire unless other cortical nerves connected to them fire, and so on. 
> There is a reason for every event in the body. A bone won't suddenly move by 
> itself.

Yes, and that is the basic motivation for mechanism (and why Diderot called it 
simply “rationalism”).

Then with mechanism, eventually all those “causal interaction” becomes descend 
of arithmetical, partially computable, relations. There is still, today, a risk 
that this predicts too much white rabbits, and leads to a contradiction with 
observation, but like with QM, there are expectations that the “white rabbits” 
remains confined below the substitution level, and of making it into very rare 
events.

Bruno


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