But there are no legs in the first place. "Legs" are from the very start 
just ideas in consciousness.

Also, self-reference doesn't "happen". Self-reference eternally is. All the 
consciousness in the world are self-reference. Self-reference is no-thing 
(in the sense that it is not a thing, it is unformalizable) and every-thing 
(all the consciousness in the world) both at the same time. I'm not sure if 
you grasp this subtlety.

On Thursday, 20 June 2019 14:08:55 UTC+3, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> First person self-reference happens when a human say I feel pain in my 
> leg, even if he has no leg. It refers to our own private subjective 
> experience.
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