On Wednesday, September 4, 2019 at 2:37:52 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 3 Sep 2019, at 10:55, Philip Thrift <cloud...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > ... Michael Forrest's paper [ > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/294721340_God_is_a_Vacuum_Fluctuation > > <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpublication%2F294721340_God_is_a_Vacuum_Fluctuation&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHhm0WpNzkTvUK88_53m8kvdDlVuw> > ] > should have related something more naturally plausible: > > *cosmopsychism* > - > https://aeon.co/essays/cosmopsychism-explains-why-the-universe-is-fine-tuned-for-life > > At least we know *consciousness* exists in at least one place > (inside our skulls, though there are deniers) > - https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/03/13/the-consciousness-deniers/ > > but no evidence of *God* has ever been observed. > > > It does not make sense to say that my consciousness is located in my > skull, no more than to say that the number 2 is in my fridge, even if > exactly two bottles of fresh water is there. > > Then, how do you define God? I agree that there is no evidence for Santa > Klaus, but I would say that with the original conception of God given by > Plato (which is simply the fundamental truth, with the insight that it is > above us), there are some evidence, ...making it for me the second thing > close to the indubitable. > > Now, I do think that there are no evidences for a primary physical > universe. And there are evidence that it does not exist: mainly that it can > be proven that that it is incompatible with Mechanism, for which we do have > evidences, like the evidence for evolution, molecular biology, or the > computability of all known Lagrangian or Hamiltonian (quantum or not). > > Bruno >
There is arguably arithmetical/mathematical language hidden in natural things, but it is certainly in brains (as a human invention). @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/31f585f0-4a3c-4ced-a05c-014286827c6e%40googlegroups.com.