On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 4:36:11 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 1:39 AM Jason Resch <jason...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 9:34 PM Bruce Kellett <bhkel...@gmail.com >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 11:46 AM Jason Resch <jason...@gmail.com >>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Thursday, September 19, 2019, Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com >>>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What I have shown is that it's hypothetically possible to have >>>>> countable universes wherein there are no repeats, no exact copies. AG >>>>> >>>> >>>> It might be imaginable but there being no duplicates of any finite >>>> spaces within an infinite space violates the Bekenstein bound and >>>> holographic principle. >>>> >>> >>> That is simply false. The duplicates could contain no information. The >>> Bekenstein bound applies to black holes, suggesting that if the infinite >>> space has a finite matter density, it will close to form a BH. The >>> holographic principle is a conjecture based on disfavoured string theory. >>> >> >> Both places absolute finite limits on the information content of a finite >> volume containing finite energy. Is this no longer a favored theory in >> physics? >> > > Holography is highly speculative. The Bekenstein bound does not apply to > non-static universes, such as our expanding universe. > > >> If a finite region does contain finite information, then in an infinite >> (homogeneous) space, that same finite pattern will reappear infinitely. >> > > You overlook the possibility that the infinite repeats are of > uninteresting volumes, and that the initial conditions for some volumes may > never repeat. > > >> This is a consequence also of eternal inflation, and Guth used almost >> identical language saying everything that can happen happens an infinite >> number of times. >> > > Guth was wrong about a lot of things. Eternal inflation is an unproven > speculative idea. Not even inflation itself is entirely secure -- it is > increasingly becoming to look like a solution in search of a problem. All > of Guth's original motivations for inflation have come to very little. >
*Doesn't inflation account for the homogeneity of our present observable universe that is causally UN-connected? Was it one of problems that inspired Guth to posit inflation? AG * > > Bruce > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/ba952539-8610-4625-b826-1911fb7cf68d%40googlegroups.com.
