On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 5:57:33 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
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> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 9:30 PM Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
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>> On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 5:25:25 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
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>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 8:38 PM Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
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>>>> On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:56:31 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote:
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>>>>>
>>>>> Except every measurement ever made in every experiment ever run. 
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *But if every interaction with the environment in decoherence satisfies 
>>>> unitary time evolution, how can the result deny unitary time evolution? AG 
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>
>>> Every measurement ever made gave only one result. This means that 
>>> unitarity is violated in giving that single result rather than a 
>>> superposition. Understanding the reason for this might require some more 
>>> work.
>>>
>>> Bruce 
>>>
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>> *If you've done that work and are convinced that unitary time evolution 
>> is violated when a measurement occurs, is this tantamount to claiming that 
>> the wf collapses? AG *
>>
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> I don't claim to have done the work to show how this happens. But collapse 
> is one possibility.
>
> Bruce 
>

*You infer that unitary time evolution would be maintained in a measurement 
if we got all possible results. This seem hugely implausible since it would 
mean a single source particle would result in many hits on the screen, 
possibly countable or uncountable. AG  *

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