On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 7:25 PM Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
> > > On 6 Oct 2019, at 02:50, Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au> wrote: > > > > On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 09:05:49PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 7:15 PM Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > >> > >> On 5 Oct 2019, at 07:14, Bruce Kellett <bhkellet...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 1:10 AM Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> > wrote: > >> > >> According to the above non-separable wave function, that means > that Bob > >> gets only the ket |->, > >> > >> > >> That is vague. It means that Alice will access to the Bobs who get > that > >> state, and never access to the Bobs who did not got it. > >> > >> > >> Exactly. And this is what you are required to explain. Just stating it > as a > >> fact is not an explanation. > > > > ISTM that this follows from the Born rule - the probability of both > > Alice and Bob seeing the same spin is strictly zero. > > > > I understand that there are problems in deriving the Born rule from > > the MWI, and that derivations that purport to do so (such as mine) are > > contentious (to put it politely :)). So it doesn't exactly solve the > > problem, but maybe directs us toward where the solution lies. > > > > What I do get is Bruno's point that a single world assumption turns a > > nonlocal state into FTL "influence", the mechanism of which is quite > > unimaginable as you point out. An argument by incredulity, as it were, > > for the MWI. > > Exactly. > It is not an indirect argument for MWI because MWI has not provided an alternative explanation. We might all reject FTL as implausible. But what are you proposing to replace it? Magic?????? Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLTZRH-THV_%2B_45yUZJQ%2BR6uv2Khs8ibHfME1x%2BCqksL5A%40mail.gmail.com.
