On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 5:04:20 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 30 Nov 2019, at 00:40, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <
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> On 11/29/2019 2:38 PM, John Clark wrote:
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> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 9:03 PM Lawrence Crowell <goldenfield...@gmail.com 
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> *> data on the arrival times of photons of different wavelengths from 
>> burstars indicates spacetime is incredibly smooth. It is smoother than the 
>> Planck scale by 1:50. There is no foam, graininess or discontinuous 
>> properties at all. Nottale scale relativity implies there is a fractal 
>> structure to spacetime that defines different properties at different 
>> scales. What is found empirically is nothing of the sort; spacetime has no 
>> preferred structure on any scale. It is smooth. *
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> If the Planck Length and the Planck Time have no physical significance 
> then perhaps the reason a Quantum Theory of Gravity has been so hard to 
> find is that such a theory does not exist. Perhaps we should try messing 
> with Quantum Mechanics to make it fit in with General Relativity rather 
> than the other way around.
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> Or push the entropic theory of gravity, which might go well with the 
> entanglement theory of spacetime.
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> That seems more plausible than messing with quantum mechanics. The problem 
> with the attempts to change the quantum theory is that it makes everything 
> worst if we want to keep it as a good approximation. Sternberg (and plaza 
> in this list) have shown rather convincingly that a slight 
> “delinearisation” of QM makes the many universes even more real, as they 
> not only can interfere, but also can interact (making both GR false, but 
> also violating the laws of thelmrmodynamic. I doubt that we can change the 
> quantum base of physics, and indeed, it becomes a necessity when we assume 
> mechanism, meaning that we would need a non-mechanist theory of mind, also.
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> Bruno
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An example of "entanglement theory of spacetime" is path integrals on 
stochastic metric spaces:

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/2399-6528/aaa851

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