On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 11:07:42 AM UTC-5, Jason wrote: > > There has been controversy <https://arxiv.org/pdf/quant-ph/0105049.pdf> in > the meaning/interpretation of the Time-Energy uncertainty relation in > quantum mechanics, but relatively none regarding the meaning of the > position-momentum uncertainty. > > However, can these not be viewed equivalently in terms of a 4-dimensional > space time? > > For example, I have seen some describe mass/energy as momentum through > time. Massless particles don't age, and have no momentum through time. > > Similarly, cannot a point-in-time measurement be viewed as a measurement > of position in the time dimension? > > In my view, you can go from the position-momentum uncertainty to the > time-energy uncertainty simply by flipping the time-space orientation. Is > this valid? Is there something I am missing? > > Jason >
The Fourier transform of time and frequency would naively mean there is negative frequency, which by E = ħω, and if we restrict the angular frequency away from negative then the energy is positive. That is one departure. If we did have a time operator such as T = iħ∂/∂E it would mean that energy is a generator of time. There would then be time eigenstates |t> such that T|t> = t|t>. We can think then of the time eigenstate |t> = e^{it(E - E_0}/ħ} such that energy is a continuous generator. This forbids the existence of discrete bound states. As a result, we do not normally think of a time operator. This operator would then have some Schrödinger equation of the form iħ∂ψ/∂E = Tψ If we can’t have a continuous energy then we can’t have a continuous time either. The existence of a time operator then requires that it have a discrete measure and that time and energy be bounded away. Is there something of this form? Yes, it is called the Taub-NUT spacetime, but it is not the universe we observe. The Taub-NUT spacetime is analogous to a black hole, but where the horizon condition occurs with time rather than with radius. There is also only one horizon. So this time version the black hole has only one black hole, at least if we take the spacetime as a global condition. I attach an image of this spacetime below. The green region is a region that has chronology protected and no timelike curves. The yellow region has closed timelike curves. The green region has this cyclicity condition on time, and I wrote a short letter on how a limited sort of time operator exists for a discrete time that cycles around. One of the oddities is that what plays the role of mass is a dual to mass, called the NUT parameter μ. This is analogous to the magnetic monopole. It shares with the gravitation mass m = GM/c^2 the S-duality condition m mμ = 2πħ laid down by Montenen and Olive. [image: Taub-NUT spacetime1.PNG] This spacetime does not reflect our observable universe. However, as a local region that “bolts” a de Sitter spacetime to an anti-de Sitter spacetime it may have some applicability We exist in a spacetime that is at least approximately de Sitter, which has no closed timelike curves etc. The inflationary spacetime is dS as well. A dS and AdS may have some correspondence with a “bolt” between them that is a Taub-NUT spacetime. It this is so there may then be some topological charge corresponding to the NUT parameter μ. This of course will probably be more mercurial to find than the EM magnetic monopole, if it exists. The nice thing is that in this setting there is ultimately an equivalency between momentum-position and energy-time conjugate variables. However, in our observable world, certainly on the vacuum of low energy or physical vacuum, the physics we observe is constrained away from any such equivalency. LC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/8ec41b0c-2170-489a-baf4-b2becd47feb6%40googlegroups.com.