On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 6:16:04 PM UTC-5 Brent wrote:

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> On 10/13/2020 3:12 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
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> On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 4:13:05 PM UTC-5 Brent wrote:
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>> On 10/13/2020 1:34 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
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>> On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 3:28:21 PM UTC-5 Lawrence Crowell wrote:
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>>> On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 3:26:14 PM UTC-5 Lawrence Crowell wrote:
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>>>> I will try to give a definitive answer. The Schwarzschild metric is
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>>>> ds^2 = c^2(1 – 2m/r)dt^2 – (1 – 2m/r)dr^2 – r^2(dθ^2 – sin^2θdφ^2)
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>>>> for m = GM/c^2. For the motion of a satellite in a circular orbit there 
>>>> is no radial motion so dr = 0. We set this on a plane with θ = π/2 so dθ = 
>>>> 0 and this reduces this to
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>>>> ds^2 =c^2(1 – 2m/r)dt^2 – r^2dφ^2.
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>>>> For circular motion dφ/dt = ω and the velocity v = ωr means this is
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>>>> ds^2 = [c^2(1 – 2m/r) – r^2ω^2]dt^2
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>>>> and so ds^2 = [c^2(1 – 2m/r) – v^2]dt^2 the term Γ = 1/√[c^2(1 – 2m/r) 
>>>> – v^2] is a general Lorentz gamma factor and in flat space with m = 0 
>>>> reduces the form we know. ds is an increment in the proper time on the 
>>>> orbiting satellite and t is a coordinate time, say on the ground of the 
>>>> body.
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>> Another erratum. The coordinate time t is for a clock very far removed, 
>> not on the ground. On the ground that clock ticks away with a factor  Γ = 
>> 1/√[c^2 – v^2] change. So there is a relative time difference.
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>> A clock on the ground is also moving with rotation of the Earth, with 
>> different speed at different latitudes.  This is taken out of the equations 
>> by comparing the GPS clock to ideal clocks on a fixed (non-rotating Earth) 
>> and then after GPS calculates the location on the non-rotating Earth, it 
>> calculates what point this is on the rotating Earth.  
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>> Brent
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> This gets really complicated. I did a lot of post-Newtonian parameter work 
> on this back in the late 80s. A lot of it was numerical, because on the 
> ground there are different values of gravity, and these too can cause 
> drift. Gravitation, thinking of a Newtonian force, is different near a 
> mountain than on the top of it, and the direction can vary some from the 
> radius. It also fluctuates with tides! The surging in and out of a lot of 
> ocean water actually changes the Newtonian gravitation potential and force. 
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> LC
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> And it's further complicated by the Earth being non-spherical.  The 
> calculations find the lat/long of a WGS84 ellipsoid.  But of course the 
> real Earth isn't exactly an WGS84 ellipsoid either and there have to be 
> local corrections in look-up tables.  Off the coast of California where I 
> used to be involved in developing sea-skimming targets the WGS84 "sea 
> level" is about 120ft under water.
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> Brent
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The world geodetic system might be thought of as a set of Bessel functions 
and similar polynomials. The Earth is not a perfect ellipsoid and there are 
other mass distributions going on with the tectonic plates and interior 
mass distributions. The model is subject to constant refinement.

LC

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