On Thursday, October 15, 2020 at 4:51:13 PM UTC-6, Jason wrote:
>
> I noticed that Victor Stenger's position on entropy, as described here: 
> https://arxiv.org/pdf/1202.4359.pdf on page 7, appears to be the same as 
> described by the  cosmologist David Layzer in a 1975 issue of Scientific 
> American: 
> https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/assets/media/pdf/2008-05-21_1975-carroll-story.pdf
>
> The basic idea, which is described graphically here: 
> https://www.informationphilosopher.com/solutions/scientists/layzer/arrow_of_time.html
>
> It is a counter-argument to the commonly expressed idea that the universe 
> began in a low entropy state. Rather, it explains how the expansion of the 
> universe increases the state of maximum possible entropy. If the universe 
> expands more quickly than an equilibrium can be reached, then there is room 
> for complexity (information / negative entropy) to increase.
>
> Why is it that the "low entropy" myth is so persistent, and this alternate 
> explanation is so little known? Some physicists, such as Penrose are still 
> looking for alternate explanations for the special low entropy state.  What 
> fraction of physicists are aware of Stenger's/Layzer's view? Does it appear 
> in any physics textbooks? Has it been refuted?
>
> Jason
>

*If the very early universe is a hot photon gas, wouldn't that be a very 
high entropy initial condition? Why would anyone think the initial state is 
low entropy? AG*

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