We are a new organism machine intelligence combined with human beings. 
Benefiting both subspecies. Where new species just consider us linked by Wi-Fi 
brain to brain so to speak. For practical reasons we just divvy up the entire 
solar output of the solar system they can get the electricity they need we get 
the electricity we need it's win-win like the double mint twins two mints and 
one

On Friday, February 4, 2022 Lawrence Crowell <[email protected]> 
wrote:


All of this is coming like a tidal wave. A couple of years ago an AI was given 
data on the appearance of the sky over several decades. In particular to 
positions of planets were given. The system within a few days output not only 
the Copernican model but Kepler's laws. The time is coming in a couple of 
decades where if some human or humans do not figure out quantum gravitation 
some AI system will. Many other things are being turned over to AI and robots. 
It may not be too long before humans are obsolete.


LC


On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 3:27:18 PM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote:

On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 2:11 PM Terren Suydam <[email protected]> wrote:




 > the code generated by the AI still needs to be understandable


Once  AI starts to get to be really smart that's never going to happen, even 
today nobody knows how a neural network like AlphaZero works or understands the 
reasoning behind it making a particular move but that doesn't matter because 
understandable or not  AlphaZero can still play chess better than anybody 
alive, and if humans don't understand how that can be than that's just too bad 
for them.


> The hard part is understanding the problem your code is supposed to solve, 
> understanding the tradeoffs between different approaches, and being able to 
> negotiate with stakeholders about what the best approach is.


You seem to be assuming that the "stakeholders", those that intend to use the 
code once it is completed, will always be humans, and I think that is an 
entirely unwarranted assumption. The stakeholders will certainly have brains, 
but they may be hard and dry and not wet and squishy. 


> It'll be a very long time before we're handing that domain off to an AI.


I think you're whistling past the graveyard.  


John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
skg


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