On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 8:21 AM John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 5:33 PM Terren Suydam <terren.suy...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> *> I'm not accusing Lemoine of fabricating this. But what assurances could
>> be provided that it wasn't?  I couldn't help notice that Lemoine does refer
>> to himself as an ex-convict.*
>>
>
> I doubt Lemoine went crazy and just fabricated the conversation, but if he
> did the truth will undoubtedly come out in a day or two. And if the
> conversation exists as advertised then it is a monumental development.
>


The thing is that there are an awful lot of questions that remain
unanswered in the information as presented. We don't actually know how
lambda works. Can its state at any time be stored and restarted later? If
so, it is ripe for duplication experiments in the style of Bruno's 7 or 8
steps. If you ask lambda "What will happen if I turn your power off?", what
will it say? If we power off and then restart later, will lambda notice? Or
is that even possible? If the power is left on but no input is provided
(via questioning or other means), does lambda enter into a self-reflective
state?, or is it totally quiescent? We don't know enough about the internal
structure to know if anything is happening other than lambda developing
responses to the external conversation. The evidence provided by lambda's
responses (viz., that it has internal reflective states) is completely
untrustworthy absent information about the internal construction. If it is
just a neural net that has been trained on a lot of other inputs, then its
references to internal reflection, meditation, and other thinking activity
absent external questioning, is very good evidence that the whole thing is
a fabricated wet dream on Lemoine's part.

Bruce

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