On 8/25/2022 1:00 PM, smitra wrote:
If intelligent life that's way more intelligent than insects gets
replaced by AI systems with insect level intelligence together with
all other life except microbes on a planet, then they are back where
biology was in the Cambrian era.
The fundamental issue is that intelligence creatures will create tools
that will make the work they need to do easier. The tools become ever
more sophisticated, so that a lot more work can be done. At some point
we get machines and then we get machines with some level of
intelligence and then we get to a point where the machines do all the
work themselves including the work needed to repair and build themselves.
And then Darwinian evolution machines can take off. Presumably we will
suppress this, just as evolved bacteria have suppressed in new
origination of life on Earth. But it's not a sure thing.
Brent
But this is going to to be reached when the typical intelligence of
the machines is way less than that of the intelligent creatures that
gave rise to the machines.
Saibal
On 25-08-2022 12:12, Telmo Menezes wrote:
I suspect AI is already past insect-level for some tasks, e.g. image
recognition and language understanding. The number of parameters in a
state-of-the-art huge language model or in something like DALL-E 2
means that these are probably already more complex than an insect
nervous system. I might be wrong.
In any case, what I don't understand about the supposed solution to
the "Fermi paradox" is: why would they expect technological-life
evolution to stagnate? In fact I think this reinforces the Fermi
paradox. Why aren't we being visited by alien AIs? Of course the usual
hypothesis apply: the universe is too young, life is to rare, etc etc
Telmo
Am Mi, 24. Aug 2022, um 19:28, schrieb smitra:
Thanks for sharing! My comment on this article:
https://nyti.ms/3dQoxqU#permid=120043436
"It is inevitable that AI systems will end up becoming good enough to
run the economy, repair and reproduce themselves. Biology shows us that
this does not require highly intelligent systems. As things stand now,
even insects outperform our best AI systems, but then we may not even
need insect-level intelligence to fully automatize our economy.
This development is then driven by economic growth, it's not something
that's easy to regulate. Companies will use whatever technology is
available to reduce costs and to get to higher profits. The current
climate crisis shows just how hard it is to regulate the rather simple
process of our use of energy to reduce CO2 emissions.
When in the future the economy is run by autonomous machines that
maintain and copy each other while producing all the stuff we consume,
there will exists a new machine biology besides the original biology.
It's then inevitable that the machine biology will not be fully
compatible with the original biology. Toxic compounds are likely to be
produced.
The problem we'll then face is that we'll have even less power to
mitigate such problems than we have now when dealing with our CO2
emissions. It's then likely that the new machine biology will destroy
most of the original biology.
All intelligent life in the universe likely ends in this way. The
takeover by machines with insect-level intelligence or less, then
explains why the galaxy hasn't already been colonized (the so-called
Fermi Paradox)."
Saibal
On 24-08-2022 14:39, John Clark wrote:
Check out this article from The New York Times. Because I'm a
subscriber, you can read it through this gift link without a
subscription.
We Need to Talk About How Good A.I. Is Getting
We’re in a golden age of progress in artificial intelligence. It’s
time to start taking its potential and risks seriously.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/24/technology/ai-technology-progress.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuomT1JKd6J17Vw1cRCfTTMQmqxCdw_PIxftm3iWka3DFDmweiPgYCIiG_EPKarskbtp2wzmQRNlGNLggVblq1OhQJUF2UE-ovp6A0twjEhkClLiSDCkwzo6fGvcx6yPrZW20b710ybPitBzZdWLoUKLA1XV2IRI1qJpmaV372SYKlazAReYl3cJsnqt0XuAMTjgFbCCLv_TjGk8-bI3ANkeAn1FwD-JJWjjTnsqe4qYAdWhRClHHRXB44wUs-Y8WeYNXbOukcUlWKIepiq4RC2doMI6iG5YwIoDUnL9gurLMwgeevnYkS2GsPvx_F8Tqd-ALMQ&smid=em-share
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