On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 2:43 PM <spudboy...@aol.com> wrote: *> Was adolf an atheist? He claimd to be.* >
Not in his public statements he didn't as I pointed out. John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> mxz > > nobody knows what was going on in Hitler's head when he gave those > speeches and nobody will ever know, all we do know is what he said. > > > *It was a method in both cases to secure loyalty for the sacrifice for > the cause.* > > > Yes and that's the important point. It doesn't matter what Hitler's > personal opinion about religion were, the important point is that religion > allows one man who claims to have God's telephone number (or these days > God's email address I guess) to control millions of people because they're > afraid of a God that claims to love them will torture them for an infinite > number of years if they don't obey every command regardless of how idiotic > they > are. > > *> Hirohito, yeah Shintoism. But they mostly saw the Japanese "race" as > superior to all.* > > > And white Christians, at least the right wing sort, tend to believe they > are superior to all. > > *> My point, if we both wish for a more peaceful human race, we need to > give the people a physical reason to chill out.* > > > The way to get people to chill out is NOT to threaten them with horrible > torture for an infinite number of years if they ever step one nanometer > out of line; and the holy rollers don't even make it clear if they're > talking about an Aleph-nought or an Aleph-one infinity of years. > > > > > So you don't care if religion is true or not, you only want to know if it > makes people happy or not. OK, I would say the answer is a big NO, at least > with regard to Christianity. How can a religion make people happy that > preaches that, unless you EXACTLY follow a long long list of ridiculous > rules that are virtually impossible to obey, an all powerful omnipotent > being that closely scrutinizes you every second of every day will torture > you far more intensely than you could possibly imagine, not for a billion > years, but for an *INFINITE* number of years. > > > *> Stalin and Mao and Adolf weren't Goddists and their death carnage > seemed to quickly say to Religion regarding deaths, "Hold my Beer!"* > > > You left out Japanese emperor Hirohito who not only believed in God, he > claimed to be the son of God, and 30 million people died in the Pacific > theater of war during World War II. And Stalin and Mao were atheists but > the vast majority of their soldiers were not, and as for Adolph... > > *On April 12 1922 Hitler said in a speech:* > > *"Today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the > Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for > the work of the Lord. [...] My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord > and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, > surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and > summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not > as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a > man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in > His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of > vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the > Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I > recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this > that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty > to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for > truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that > we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a > Christian I have also a duty to my own people."* > > *O**n October 27, 1928 Adolf Hitler in another speech said:* > > *"**We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of > Christianity. Our movement is Christian."* > > *In yet another speech that Hitler gave in Berlin on October 24, 1933 he > said:* > > *"**We were convinced that **the people need and require this faith. We > have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and > that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it > out."* > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv1FFU5M3t7BGR%3DB9Gm%3DE_3iWMpwSw6qNmwySiqeo8TxBQ%40mail.gmail.com.
