On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 11:40 PM LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote:

*> I don't suppose this could be one of them?*
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> https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2023/webb-reveals-colors-of-earendel-most-distant-star-ever-detected
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No. Earendel has the spectrum of a type B star and is about 1 million times
brighter than the Sun, the only reason even the James Webb telescope is
able to see it is because due to a lucky accident a very massive
galaxy is between
us and that star and has magnified it several thousand times by
gravitational lensing. However Earendel may be an example of a population 3
star that astronomers have been seeking for decades; a first generation
star that is composed almost entirely of hydrogen and helium and no metals.

By contrast a Dark Star, if one exists, would have a spectrum closer to
that of a type G star like the sun but be at least 1 billion times
brighter; it would be so bright it would be hard to tell the difference
between it and an entire galaxy that was so distant it was almost a point
source in our telescopes.

John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>
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> On Sun, 16 Jul 2023, 23:58 John Clark, <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> As early as 2012 scientists predicted that the Hubble telescope would see
>> something they called a "Dark Star".
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>> Observing supermassive dark stars with James Webb Space Telescope
>> <https://academic.oup.com/mnras/article/422/3/2164/1043351?login=false>
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>> They theorized in the early universe Dark Matter, whatever it is, must've
>> been much more densely concentrated than it is today, and if Dark Matter
>> particles are their own antiparticles as many think then their annihilation
>> could provide a heat source, they could keeping star in thermal and
>> hydrodynamic equilibrium and prevent it from collapsing. They hypothesized
>> something they called a "Dark Star '', it would be a star with a million
>> times the mass of the sun and would be composed almost entirely of hydrogen
>> and helium but with 0.1% Dark Matter.  A Dark Star would not be dark but
>> would be 10 billion times as bright as the sun and be powered by dark
>> matter not nuclear fusion.
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>> Astronomers were puzzled by pictures taken with the James Webb telescope
>> that they interpreted to be bright galaxies just 320 million years after
>> the Big Bang that were much brighter than most expected them to be that
>> early in the universe, a recent paper by the same people that theorized
>> existence of Dark Stars claim they could solve this puzzle. They claim 3
>> of the most distant objects that the Webb telescope has seen are point
>> sources, as you'd expect from a Dark Star, and their spectrum is consistent
>> with what they predicted a Dark Star should look like. With a longer
>> exposure and a more detailed spectrum, Webb should be able to tell for sure
>> if it's a single Dark Star or an early galaxy made up of tens of millions
>> of population 3 stars.
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>> Supermassive Dark Star candidates seen by JWST
>> <https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2305762120>
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>> 3v
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