Scott Aaronson is far from "a bunch of highschoolers".

Why I Am Not An Integrated Information Theorist (or, The Unconscious Expander)

Recently, lots of people have been asking me what I think about IIT—no, not the Indian Institutes of Technology, but Integrated Information Theory, a widely-discussed “mathematical theory of consciousness” developed over the past decade by the neuroscientist Giulio Tononi.  One of the askers was Max Tegmark, who’s enthusiastically adopted IIT as a plank in his radical mathematizing platform (see his paper “Consciousness as a State of Matter”). When, in the comment thread about Max’s Mathematical Universe Hypothesis, I expressed doubts about IIT, Max challenged me to back up my doubts with a quantitative calculation.

So, this is the post that I promised to Max and all the others, about why I don’t believe IIT.  And yes, it will contain that quantitative calculation.

Read the rest at:
https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=1799

Brent

On 9/21/2023 11:42 AM, Dylan Distasio wrote:
Having read that letter, I don't find it very becoming of the scientists writing it who should know better.  Regardless of what you think about IIT and its merits or lack thereof, it results in some predictions that can be tested, and while some of the work is certainly hard to carry out, it provides a framework for future experiments.

The letter sounds to me like it was written by a bunch of high schoolers who are butthurt that their pet theories of consciousness are not the leading one in the press.   To label it pseudoscience arbitrarily is a bridge too far and does not reflect well on the signees.

On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 2:08 PM John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Consciousness theory slammed as "pseudoscience"
    
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    John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis
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