On 1/23/2024 9:34 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:

        here is yet another level, phenomenal consciousness, which
        has no behavioural manifestations whatsoever, allowing for
        the theoretical possibility of philosophical zombies. Some
        claim that phenomenal consciousness reduces to one of the
        other kinds, and therefore that zombies are impossible.
        That's the kind that couldn't evolve and so I agree with JC
        that it's unlikely to exist.


    Apparently it does exist, but it appears that it is epiphenomenal.

    It's far from apparent to me.  Why do you think it exists?


It exists because I know it does, and I would guess that you know it does as well. I can’t do anything to demonstrate it, because that is the nature of epiphenomena.

No, you don't know that.  If you have a conscious thought now that "has no behavioural manifestations whatsoever" you may remember it next year and change what you write on the every-thing list then.

Brent

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