On 7/13/2024 4:39 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 7:36 PM Brent Meeker <meekerbr...@gmail.com> wrote:

    //
    /> I agree.  But I don't think Biden has the guts or the energy to
    do it. /


True, I don't think Biden is ready to start assassinating political opponents, but if he remains the nominee then he still has to debate Trump two more times. I'm certainly not looking forward to that but if I were Biden I'd look Trump straight in the eye and ask him one question: "You've indicated that you approve of the recent Supreme Court ruling, therefore do you really think that because being Commander In Chief is part of my official duties it would be perfectly legal if right now on live TV I ordered Seal Team Six to put a bullet in your brain?"

Incidentally I'd like to ask six of the nine justices on the Supreme Court a similar question.

    /> He should just resign due to health reasons in favor of Harris
    who I think could do it. /


Yes, but even better would be if Biden simply released his delegates and the Democrats had an open convention which would decide who their presidential candidate would be. The world would be transfixed during those four days, and in this case I think that would be a good thing.

 Yeah, I've thought about that too.  It would make for good TV.  But I'm not sure about the campaign money of Biden/Harris.  I don't think they can legally give it to anyone else or even to the DNC.

Brent


 John K Clark






    Brent

    On 7/12/2024 5:13 AM, PGC wrote:

    Waking up is indeed what is needed. Of course, the Dem candidate
    should be changed. But in game theory terms, perhaps Stewart and
    Clooney don't go far enough. */Even if Biden or some Dem won in
    November, does anybody really believe that the other side would
    accept it, not contest the election with SCOTUS just waiting to
    hear the cases in an objective manner? Does anybody really
    believe that if Trump won, he wouldn't use the powers that SCOTUS
    just furnished him, to pursue retribution, authoritarian goals,
    and dismantling democracy for personal and political gain?/*

    What we have right now is a novel SCOTUS-approved presidential
    superpower, as Sotomayor points out in her dissent. A President
    just has to make anything he wants to do "official." The slow but
    definite slide into authoritarianism is apparently underway. Game
    theory suggests seizing any advantage and initiative immediately,
    and with Trump immediately seeking relief from his conviction,
    based on the SCOTUS immunity ruling, I don’t see why Biden
    couldn’t make use of them now. Use the powers granted by SCOTUS
    to indict and arrest MagaMan as orchestrator, and SCOTUS justices
    Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch, Barrett for accomplice liability that led
    to Jan 6. Use the DOJ and make it an "official act" towards
    protecting democracy.

    I know, I know: pitchforks, large risk, and perhaps a
    constitutional crisis. Yet, invoking such a move is proof of the
    vast overreach of those justices, the lack of respect for rule of
    law of that ruling, and the felon of the moment taking immediate
    advantage. Democrats should leverage this somehow.


    On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 6:38:21 PM UTC+2 John Clark wrote:

        On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 11:38 AM PGC <multipl...@gmail.com>
        wrote:

            /> Stewart is right: "This can't be real life!". /


        If only I could wake up and realize it was all just a
        horrible dream!  But the reality is If Biden remains the
        Democratic candidate then Trump is going to win in a
        landslide, and the majority of the House and Senate will be
        Republican and incorporated into the Trump hive mind. And
        Trump already has the Supreme Court in his pocket. But if
        another Democrat, almost any other Democrat, is the candidate
        then American democracy would at least have a fighting chance
        of surviving.
        John K Clark   See what's on my new list at Extropolis
        <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>
        o8f



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