On Monday, December 2, 2024 at 9:19:39 AM UTC-7 John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Dec 2, 2024 at 10:53 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: *> Who claims conscious objects obey different laws than non-conscious objects? * *Anyone who claims that an observation or a measurement causes the collapse of Schrodinger's quantum wave, that's who. * *That's pure BS. I studied QM with very learned professors in first-rate universities, and I've viewed many videos, and nothing of the sort is ever claimed, not even by Penrose for example. It's just your private position, which is delusional. And what kind of conscious objects are you referring to? De Broglie never distinquished conscious from inanimate objects when making his conjecture of the wave properties of matter. Please stop your misleading BS. AG * *> **I'm sure the book was a best seller, in the fiction department. AG * *I'd ask you to read "The Ghost In The Atom" or Sean Carroll's even better book "Something Deeply Hidden", **however I know there's not a snowball's chance in hell of you ever reading either one, much less reading any of their technical research papers; I doubt you even read my short post. But of course that will not prevent you from expressing very strong opinions regarding the quality, or lack thereof, of those two excellent physicist's work.* *Anyone who strays into and supports MW has fallen for Trump physics, and I wouldn't waste my time reading their justifications. Of course, much is hidden. That's a given. But the huge proliferations of worlds or branches by trivial human actions, and animals, and microscopic creatures, is proof enough that the theory you love is catagorical nonsense. AG * *John K Clark * r5r -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/60be5d86-7949-4191-b3af-cbe1f0c91f42n%40googlegroups.com.
