On Monday, December 9, 2024 at 5:31:17 AM UTC-7 John Clark wrote:

On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 3:55 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

*> This is nonsense.* [...] Obviously, the paradox exists only when the car 
speeds up, to a sufficient speed so it can fit exactly in the garage.which 
you refuse to admit.


*I admit that in different frames of reference clocks running at different 
speeds and meter-sticks having different lengths is odd, but you need more 
than strangeness to have a paradox. My high school physics textbook 
explained, and I'm sure many others did too, that Einstein discovered that 
these two effects cancel out in such a way that no logical contradiction is 
ever produced, and that's what's required to have a paradox. I'd suggest 
that you read such a textbook but I know you never will, and even if you 
did you'd just say the textbook was wrong as were all physicists since 
1905.  *

  *John K Clark *


*Since the contracted length of the car, from the pov of the garage, can be 
arbitraily close to zero, as v --> c, there's no way that the car cannot 
fit in the garage, from the pov of the garage. But from the pov of the car, 
assumed to have length greater than the garage as an initial condition, the 
car can never be contained within the garage, as the garage length shrinks. 
These are the facts. Why don't you focus on the facts, instead of on other 
BS, such as what I will or won't read? These results are paradoxical if and 
only if it is assumed there is some objective reality, such as the 
objective reality that the car can OR cannot fit in the garage. On the 
issue of time dilation, please be specific about how time dilation somehow 
cancels out space contraction. AG *

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