You make the classical confusion between epistemology and ontology. Only 
because you can use something, it doesn't mean that that something exists. 
Only because you watch a movie with Spider-Man, it doesn't mean Spider-Man 
exists.

Also, I highly recommend you to perform for yourself such telepathy 
experiment. Thank you for reading my papers!

On Saturday, 14 December 2024 at 22:57:55 UTC+2 Brent Meeker wrote:

> I can successfully test my belief in matter.  The fact that you did not 
> already know this casts strong doubt on your telepathic powers.
>
> "The second reason was that I already knew that I have telepathies when 
> I’m in relationships, thus I wanted to see what kind of telepathies appear 
> if I involve more than one girl."
> From https://philpapers.org/archive/VISMAC-3.pdf
>
> I guess if I were to write such stupid drivel I wouldn't use my real name 
> either.
>
> Brent
>
>
>
> On 12/14/2024 1:21 AM, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List wrote:
>
> @Brent The only woo-woo is your belief in "matter".
>
> On Saturday, 14 December 2024 at 01:46:07 UTC+2 Brent Meeker wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/13/2024 1:18 AM, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List wrote:
>>
>> When you base an invention on the world of finite forms, of course that 
>> invention will be limited. You will never replicate the powers of 
>> consciousness, because consciousness draws its powers from the infinite 
>> world of the formless. And drawing from an infinite source, it is able to 
>> produce infinite forms and it doesn't need quazillions of forms to learn. 
>>
>> Let's see you produce and infinite form or two.
>>
>>
>> A baby learns to speak from just a few examples, because what the parents 
>> to is not to provide raw data to the baby, 
>>
>> Twins often invent their own language which the speak to each other.  
>> Evolution has provided the raw data to create language.
>>
>>
>> but to stimulate the baby's consciousness to access the formless source 
>> and to draw from there whatever forms it needs in order to be able to speak 
>> and generally learn anything.
>>
>> Woo-Woo magic.
>>
>> Brent
>>
>>
>> On Friday, 13 December 2024 at 09:29:37 UTC+2 Alan Grayson wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, December 12, 2024 at 7:38:11 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote:
>>>
>>> Magic is always the explanation of those who can't understand.
>>>
>>> Brent
>>>
>>>
>>> *There's plenty of magic, under a different name, in physics. Another 
>>> pitfall is religating hidden knowledge, aka occult knowledge, such as the 
>>> Chakras in Yoga, to de facto magic or someone's overactive imagination. AG *
>>>
>>> On 12/12/2024 1:39 PM, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List wrote:
>>>
>>> Magic!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 12 December 2024 at 20:00:58 UTC+2 John Clark wrote:
>>>
>>> *The number of "tokens" (words or parts of words) used to train LLMs is 
>>> 100 times larger than it was in 2020, the largest are now using tens of 
>>> trillions.  if you only consider text then the entire Internet only 
>>> contains about 3,100 trillion tokens. The amount of text LLMs train on is 
>>> doubling every year but the amount of human generated text on the Internet 
>>> is only growing at about 10% a year, if that trend continues AIs will run 
>>> out of text somewhere around 2028.  Does that mean AI progress is about to 
>>> hit a wall? I don't think so for the following reasons:*
>>>
>>> *For one thing, because of improvements in algorithms, the computing 
>>> power needed for a Large Language Model  to achieve the same performance 
>>> has halved about every 8 months. *
>>>
>>> *ALGORITHMIC PROGRESS IN LANGUAGE MODELS* 
>>> <https://arxiv.org/pdf/2403.05812>
>>>
>>>
>>> *And computer chips specialized for AI rather than general computing, 
>>> like those made by Nvidia and other companies, are getting faster even more 
>>> rapidly than Moore's Law. Also, the rate of growth of specialized data 
>>> sets, such as astronomical and biological data, are growing much much more 
>>> quickly than text is; that's how AIs got so good at predicting how proteins 
>>> fold up. *
>>>
>>> *And there is vastly more information if AI's are trained on other types 
>>> of data besides text, and some AI's are already being trained on unlabeled 
>>> images and videos.  Yann LeCun, chief AI scientist at Meta, said that 
>>> "although the 10^13  tokens used to train a LLM  sounds like a lot  (it 
>>> would take a human 170,000 years to read that much) , a 4-year-old child 
>>> has absorbed a volume of data 50 times greater than that just by looking at 
>>> objects during his waking hours. We’re never going to get to human-level AI 
>>> by just training on language, that’s just not happening".* 
>>>
>>> *And then there's synthetic data. AlphaGeometry was trained to solve 
>>> geometry problems using 100 million computer generated synthetic examples 
>>> with no human demonstrations, and it ended up being as good at solving 
>>> difficult geometry problems as the very best high school students in the 
>>> entire nation. *
>>>
>>> *Solving olympiad geometry without human demonstrations* 
>>> <https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06747-5>
>>>
>>> *AI researchers are starting to change their strategy and have their 
>>> AI's reread their training set many times because AI's operate in a 
>>> statistical way so rereading improves performance *
>>>
>>>
>>> *Scaling Data-Constrained Language Models* 
>>> <https://arxiv.org/pdf/2305.16264>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Andy Zou at Carnegie Mellon University says  "once  an AI has got a 
>>> foundational knowledge base that’s probably greater than any single person 
>>> could have, it no longer needs more data to get smarter. It just needs to 
>>> sit and think. I think we’re probably pretty close to that point.”*
>>>
>>> *John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*
>>>
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